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philly 09/15/05 |
Bounty Microfiber cloth is the answer to all your prayers here. I simply use soap and water to clean, dry it and then go over it with a DRY Bounty Microfiber cloth. Shines with NO lint and NO streaks what so ever! |
ellen 09/16/05 |
Thanks |
susan susanaldridge2000@yahoo.de 12/12/05 |
Hi from germany, I am sitting here in Saxony, Germany and reading with surprise some old threads about all the complaints about cleaning glass cooktops, and I think what Mary Anne wrote in the thread in July about her Schott glass cooktop being really good must be true. The reason is that in Germany all glass cooktops are made by Schott in Jena, Thuringia, Germany (we have 2 in out kitchan and both were bought in 1992) and we have never had trouble cleaning them. We use soap and water and we hardly ever clean it after use other than wipe a sponge over it after it is cool. If something gets big and ugly like boiling over sauces we scrape it with what looks like a glass scraper used to clean paint off windows-but it has the Schott anme on it-but any will do. The Schott Jena glass must be a much harder higher quality than the run of the mill glasstop material used in the USA. I was told that Schott makes all the cooktops in Europe and I had thought they make them for America too-but I guess Corning makes the most for America, although, as Mary Anne said, she bought a stovetop with Schott glass, but she did not say what brand it was. I use all types of pots, including cast iron which I brought from America, but the most effective are the multi-ply or tri-ply because the heat is distributed evenly over the whole pot--not just on the bottom. If you ask me there is too much heat concentrated on those sandwich bottoms. I do not like them because they burn food too easily. In Europe the best brand is Spring from Switzerland (too expensive but once used you never want to use any other and you have it for life), and Berndes has started a new line called Berndes TRICION®, and then Rösle has a new multi ply. Is not All-Clad a multi-ply? I have used copper and copper bottom Revereware on my Schott stovetop with no adverse effect, but I can imagine that is you would let the water boil away or you were to put the burner on and forget to put food in the pot, the copper could very well melt- it is a soft metal. So caution is in order for copper. I also use pots which are not the exact size as the burners, but I use multi ply pots mostly (not always). I would advise to buy stovetops which employ German made glass from Jena, Germany. As Mary Anne said- Schott.
Just to add something of interest to make this whole thing more alive to you- I have visited Jena and it is an amazing town because of their highly technical know-how and tradition of Jena glass and Zeiss optical equipment. The houses are painted in wonderful bright colors and trees are growing everywhere in many parks. The people of the town are hightly educated and they are open and friendly and very self confident. They have ancient houses and steep cobble stone lanes and people walking everywhere all times of the day and night-very safe place. |
ellen 12/16/05 |
Thank you for this "picture"- |
Bridgit Moore 01/05/06 |
I have gotten several good tips from these threads about the ceramic cooktip. I got mine yesterday and the very first thing cooked left a scorch mark, which sent me panicked to this site. I am debating very strongly whether to return it because I love to cook and want to have fun, not fret every size pan, spill, etc. And my husband is a forgetful, messy person, who cannot be trusted to remember all these rules. And my young children will soon be able to cook, but if I'm worried about the darn stove, how will I ever be able to let go of this unending chore (cooking!)? At any rate, I do have a question still: what is the possible toxicity of using all these creams and cleansers? I am not a purist but try to be environmentally sensitive when possible and this stove seems to need so many products that it really goes against my personal ethos. I wish the salespeople had been honest, or indeed, in any way helpful or knowledgable, when selling me this stupid stove. I would have gladly gone the coil route if I had had even an inkling of the issues involved. |
lisa 01/08/06 |
my first post :) we recently bought new appliances & the kenmore elite gas range we purchased has a ceramic cooktop. the salesperson did not mention there were "special" cleaning ordeals involved!! i was a little freaked when i saw the bottle of cleaner, recommended scotchgard sponge & sticker of do's & don'ts!! i was considering returning it as well. the only reason i may keep it is because i figure since it is gas the burner grates will protect it more than if i were actually placing the pots/pans directly on top. my sister has an electric range with ceramic top & always seems to have scorch marks. |
Rachel 05/01/07 |
Well, I'm just glad to know I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE! Just bought a new house with a new black ceramic cooktop (Whirpool brand) and b/c I'm not used to the heat I overheated pasta and had a spill over that left a nasty brown mark. WARNING! DO NOT USE BARKEEPER'S FRIEND! It is a 'mild' abrasive that left ugly scratches on my black cooktop. After doing some research I discovered that baking soda can be used to clean stuck on-cooked on foods. BAKING SODA works like a DREAM! I caked it on, wiped it with sponge, and off came the stuck on brown gunk. Then I polished the cooktop with some good old-fashioned vinegar. Voila! It looks brand new again--aside from those scratches left by BARKEEPER'S FRIEND. Good luck to ya'll. |
ellen 05/02/07 |
All the liquid scrubbers like soft scrub will also scratch and gouge. Thanks for the tip. |
Janet 08/19/07 |
The magic erasers sponges remove the most stubborn stuck on food. I tried everything else that did not work. I am referring to the sponges which have a white side and usually a blue - made by Mr. Clean I think. My old black cooktop was not problem which was a Maytag. this new one is a frigidare and I can't seem to get the grease smudges off. Windex window clean, dish detergent etc. don't remove the grease. |
amelia j roberson 04/29/08 |
I really screwed up! The design on my cooktop looks like it has been rubbed off. Is this possible? Yikes! |
ellen 04/29/08 |
Yes. GE covers this under warranty for up to 5 years, according to another reader,, even though the general warranty is only 1 year. You have to know about this and ask- they don't volunteer this information. |
margie 08/19/08 |
Cerama Brite has been really good in cleaning and polishing my stove. I must admit, I have to be more cautious in using my glass stovetop, but I am getting more and more familiar with it. I was advised to use Cerama Brite after each use because it protects and keeps it looking brand new. |
Carolyn Ireland 09/22/09 |
I have a Kenmore. After about 6 mons. the white started rubbing off in 2 small areas adjacent to each other on different burners. This grew into a 2" ring around the burner! I had a repairman come out to look at it (thinking it was covered under the 5 yr warranty). I ended up with the explanation that I used warped pans! My pans were not warped! Said it was common and not covered! Had to pay for service call! I made all kinds of calls! Still have stove and get irritated every time I look at it! Don't buy Kenmore! |
ellen 09/22/09 |
The pan does not have to be warped, it just has to be bigger than the burner; these stoves are very particular about the pan fitting the burner. Sorry you had so much trouble, but the repairman is right, this is a common problem and is not covered by the warranty. |
jan 09/27/09 |
i have a white ceramic cooktop that has black little spots on it that they are from minerals cooking onto it. i have tried the glass cleaners and mr. clean sponges and the baking soda. nothing seems to phase them. any ideas? |
ellen 09/27/09 |
Sorry but that is about it... |
Phoebe 12/14/09 |
I left my copper bottom pan with water on and fell asleep. The water disappeared and the bottom of the pan flaked off and left a white mark in the middle of the burner. The old credit card and razor trick is not working on this(that usualy works). It is not a raised mark, but does not feel as smooth as the glass. Any ideas, I've kept this top immaculate and now this????? |
deb 12/14/09 |
exact same problem as one above me!! except I was distracted and not sleeping. Looking forward to reading how to get this mark off. Tried baking soda, limited removal of mark. thanks!! as I also have kept it immaculate this year, since we bought this house with beautiful newer appliances in it. |
ellen 12/14/09 |
Ladies, this metal stain, no one has come up with a way remove. Sorry to to bring the bad news. You were actually lucky the pan did not fuse to the top permanently, this also happens! |
Phoebe 12/21/09 |
I didn't use that burner for days while trying to get the three spots off. I started using it again a few days ago and one of the spots has disappeared. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the other 2 disappear, also. |
ellen 12/22/09 |
Good luck, Phoebe. |
Phoebe 01/03/10 |
Hi guys my spots are gone. When wiping the stove top I noticed that the 2 remaining spots were raised slightly, so I took a razor blade and they scraped right off. So my stove looks good again. Good Luck. |
charlie 09/04/10 |
This will work on the worst case. First clean with Oxy-Magic. Then soak with cooktop cleaner and use NEW single edge razor blade on hard material. Then use STIFF,BRASS brush and razor blade to finish up hard spots. Then clean with glass cooktop cleaner(we us Easy-Off). This combination is great. |
Robin 09/10/10 |
Any problems with scratching etc. the tops on a Samsung or LG range? Thinking about purchasing but these posts are horrifying me. |
charlie 09/18/10 |
My cleaning process is harmless. Just don't drag cookware across cooktop. |
Sue 11/11/10 |
I just got a brand new KitchenAid electric range with a ceramic cooktop. I used the cooktop once...I thought I was being careful...but now there are a couple of scratches on the burner. After using it once!! and I was using a Calphalon pan. I am petrified to use it again. My old range was a GE with a ceramic top and it seemed to be much better than this one. Can you usually return ranges to the place of purchase? Because I'm thinking I made a huge mistake with this new one. |
ellen 11/11/10 |
Most appliance stores and many department stores will take it in exchange if returned ASAP. Don't wait; it doesn't get better. |
Sue 11/12/10 |
I may have over-reacted. I tried cleaning it again letting the Cerama-Brite cleaner sit for a little bit. Scratches (if that's what they were) disappeared. So it looks good as new! Whew!! But I think I'm going to buy a couple of new pans anyways (gives me a reason to do some shopping!). Now, does anybody have an opinion on the best cleaner for stainless steel appliances?? |
Tony 12/19/10 |
My LG black ceramic top is a nightmare. It's already ruined because I used a soft scrub sponge so now it's smudged. I'm calling LG to see if the will replace this top. I have cerama bright but it's still very hard to clean. big mistake getting this. |
al_in_socal 02/06/11 |
Wow - see I'm not alone. I bought what should have been a $1000 range for very cheap on Craigslis - and now I know why. What a pain to clean - though it gets much hotter and works much better than my old electric. Also - since we're talking issues - for those of you with Kitchen-Aid electric ranges with an OFF button on an electronic keypad - well - there is a KNOWN issue that makes the off button not work! Yup - my off button does not work - I either use the timed cooking feature (thank God it has this) or I use the breaker to switch off the range. Could be dangerous if you don't know where the breaker is. |
Bridget 03/18/11 |
I didn't realize that the size of pan to burner is so important. I'm glad I found this site. I am looking for information about my Farberware pots and pans, I hae seen a completley flat bottom on these, but mine have the Farberware emblem in the middle of all the bottoms. Is this an issue? I haven't had any problems so far, but it's a new GE and I want the best pots and pans, thanks in advance. |
ellen 03/18/11 |
The emblem is OK. |
diane 11/07/11 |
How can I remove this product i applied in on the top part of my stove by the knobs and now it is smudged and I cant get rid of it help u can email me at dlulloff@frontier.com |
ellen 11/07/11 |
Diane, you posted several times, please only post once and go read the reply on the other thread. |
Peggy 01/05/12 |
What about using iron skillets on the ceramic top? Anybody have any problems? |
ellen 01/06/12 |
Scratch the tops easily, do not ever slide them.. Can be used if flat bottom, not if they have the very common ring. |
Donna 01/25/12 |
thought I was doing a good thing replacing our old open electric coil type cook type range with a ceramic cooktop. Had it a week now and am becoming completely paranoid ; cleaning it constantly and worrying about everyone pot pan and cleaning utensil. Does anyone LIKE these cooktops? Can anyone offer advise before I return it? Help!! |
lisa 01/26/12 |
I find myself a litte obsessed with cleaning my new frigidare glass top... not to mention I have to buy all new pans! (Mine don't sit flat) donna I hear your dilemna but I think that you will grow to love it. Just be sure you clean it after every use and use the proper cookware and you should be fine. I like to wipe my down after each use with a damp sponge. ...then I use a little sofscrub with a non abrasive cloth. Shine it up with some windex (use a microfiber cloth) and it will look like new. Hope this helps. |
Pete 02/03/12 |
In my experience, I simply suspect that the US cook tops may be built a bit cheaply which causes allot of these problems. A harder (less porous)ceramic glass top would probably prevent many of these issues. I think it is all part of a maintainence scam to make more money...sad really |
lisa 02/03/12 |
Pete I agree with you 100%!!!!!! |
Peggy Gummels 05/18/12 |
I have a new kitchen ceramic stove top and already have deep enough scratches that won't come out w/any suggestions. My stove is brand new and it has hardly been used. I don't understand why such deep scratches in it already. I have an extended warranty on this top. Would any of it be under warranty?I would like to get a new top for my stove. I have tried all the things I was told would work. I don't think I should have to pay to repair or replace the top already when I have only used it a hand full of time I am willing to work w/ the company to solve this problem |
ellen 05/19/12 |
Start where you bought it, then go to the certified repair person for your bran. The problem is probably your pots and whether they get slid around. |
Peggy Gummels 05/19/12 |
I have a new kitchen ceramic stove top and already have deep enough scratches that won't come out w/any suggestions. My stove is brand new and it has hardly been used. I don't understand why such deep scratches in it already. I have an extended warranty on this top. Would any of it be under warranty?I would like to get a new top for my stove. I have tried all the things I was told would work. I don't think I should have to pay to repair or replace the top already when I have only used it a hand full of time I am willing to work w/ the company to solve this problem |
Evelyn Morrison 11/25/12 |
Have a black top stove that has white spots on it i clean it but what can i use to remove them |
ellen 11/25/12 |
Do you mean smudges? These are often caused by heating empty pots, and are qui the glass.s actually undertimete difficult, as they are some |
sue 01/03/13 |
I have a Kitchenaid glass top stove...black top. It's only 2 years old but I've notice on the one burner that I use most of the time, a ring in glass itself and it will not polish out with cleaner. Also on another burner, I recently found something in the glass itself, once again will not polish out. (It's hard to describe but it is something in the glass itself). I am extremely meticulous about keeping this cooktop clean so I am so disappointed to have these areas on the burners on such a newer cooktop. Makes me wonder what it will look like in a couple more years. :( |
ellen 01/03/13 |
Yes, it is a sad and frequent tale... |
allison chaynes 03/15/13 |
I have had a ceramic cooktop for 10 years and have had no problem cleaning it with cerama bright. I love my stove but I was making hard candy last week ans spilled some and now I have terrible scortch marks and even with a razor, I cannot get rid of the mess. Is sugar just harder to remove?any suggestions for removing burt sugar specifically? |
ellen 03/15/13 |
Yes, burnt sugar is worse, it can actually pit the top. Possible overnight soak may help loosen it. |
Andre 04/07/13 |
Thanks Ellen for this forum, I'm glad to have found such a helpfull site. I've started my journey by purchasing a Kenmore glass cooktop stove model 970C68783 in November 2012, within the first use, water boiled over my revere ware copper bottom pot and left a white mark inside the glass. I've contacted Sears canada who sent a technican to my house and couldn't remove the marks. They offer to take back the stove and I've decided to go back to old coil cooktop stove model 970-59843. To my surprise, the coil cooktop was not was I was expecting, they now make it so cheap with a really shinny finish that you have to remove all burners and drip trays after each uses in order to polish and buff out all the fingers and washing marks. So I was back to square one, after reading carefully your forum, I remembered seen the K mark that was on the corner of my first glass cooktop, wich was poorly made by corning ware. I've decided to return my coil stove back in March 2013 and I got myself a LG stove with schott ceran cooktop model LRE6327ST, what a difference, so easy to keep clean and so far no problems. People who really want a glass cooktop, do your research and buy a Schott Ceran cooktop and nothing less. In Canada, only Whirlpool, LG and certain Kitchen Aid stove still uses Schott Ceran cooktop. I did got rid of my revere ware pots, my mother in-law was really happy to take it from me, and i got myself a nice set of Paderno Stainless steel heavy bottom, encasulated pots, as well as all-clad hard anodize with stainless steel bottom pans. Ps. I also find the Weiman cooktop cleaner to work the best, they have an awsome product line, from spray cleaner to quick wipes and the old fashion cream and scrubbing pad, try it out. I also want to thanks all of you, who participated in this forum for helping me makin the right choice! Andre :O) |
sue 07/16/13 |
Sorry, Andre, I have a Kitchen Aid stove with a Schott ceramic cooktop and, even though it's only 2 1/2 years old, I have had issues with the cooktop (see my other comment above). And I am meticulous about keeping it clean. (I also use the Weiman cleaner.) Seems that having a Schott ceramic cooktop does not make a difference. |
carol 03/15/14 |
I have a nearly 30 year old glass top Kenmore with not problem with cleanup. only problem is: the oven can't cook like the top anymore, and I am looking for a new one as good as the old one!!!! |
ellen 03/16/14 |
Carol. sometimes a really good appliance repair man can bring an old oven back to life- if you love your stove it is worth checking in to. |
Carol A. 09/11/15 |
Brand new Whirlpool with Scott Ceran cooktop.....using proper pots, etc; Using the cleaner (cream +cleaner Pad)recommended by Whirlpool and ONE burner Now has shiny metal Residue marks, one the size of a dime, which appear to be "under" the glass. The worse that ever spilled was a wee bit of soup. We are 'light' cooktop users. Stove is 3 months old and that one burner looks terrible. Please help! |
ellen 09/12/15 |
Cleaned pot bottoms thoroughly? If actually under glass, a whole different problem, could be under warranty. Check w/ seller or manufacturer first. |
MaryAnn 11/13/15 |
New Samsung black ceramic top stove. Left a copper bottom pot with water boiling and forgot I had it on. Water brunt out. It left wait/gray colired marks on the top. I cleaned it with recommended cleaner an some of the marks came off. I'm so upset have I ruined the stove. Don't know what to do to get the rest of the marks off. Help... |
ellen 11/13/15 |
Try all the different suggestions, Magic Eraser, Maas polish, Weimann's. Don't beat yourself up; it messes with the looks but not the function. |
Forrest 02/25/16 |
We purchased a Black Kenmore Elite Cooktop in October of 2015. We are very carefull while cooking and cleaning. It does not clean up without using the Kenmore cleaning Creme! Now we have a scratch on the surface that will not buff out, at this rate it will look very bad within a year. "It is Schott Ceran" |
ellen 02/25/16 |
Yep, it is a typical story. One scratch in 6 months is actually doing better than average. It is an encouragement to practice deep breathing and acceptance... |
Lisette 05/02/16 |
I have a 40 years old white Moffat Epicure Corning cook top and the only problem I have with cleaning is the little grey strikes over the burners probably caused by my pots and pans. At that time, the company was giving a product called ''Delete'' which was doing the job. I don't find this product anywhere. I have tried many other products which do not work. Would like to solve this problem since otherwise it looks great and I love my cook top. Thank you. |
ellen 05/02/16 |
Have never seen this product... wish it were still around. |
ellen 05/02/16 |
Ocello makes a no scratch scrub and wipe pad that works on straight corning ware. Might be worth a try. |
Gigi 01/07/17 |
We have Schott Ceran black cooktop. We have only had a couple weeks and have many little scratches . We have flat smooth bottom pans and never scoot them on the burners. Anyway to get out the scratches or prevent from getting anymore ? |
ellen 01/07/17 |
No suggestions- it is way too common. |
bo_diddley 02/28/17 |
After nearly a decade of using different smootop ranges, I've come to several conclusions. If you take the time and look around the 'net, you'll see that there appears to be a ton of complaints and problems with these stoves. FWIW, after doing much research, I can emphatically say that YES, there ARE differences between the various manufacturers and brands out there. I have found that genuine Ceran holds up the best for daily wear and tear. The other manufacturer, EuroKera out of France, is the stuff I've had the most issues with. Scratches, small pitting, streaking, and cooktop fading are just a few problems I've encountered using with these cooktops. You easily easily identify if it was made by EuroKera simply by looking for a small "k" symbol in the upper right or left hand corner of the glass near the back splash. It seems the majority of ranges built in North America are being made with EuroKera, whereas the European models are built using Schott Glass. I'm sure there's some trade agreement or cost-cutting involved here somewhere, but I am of the opinion that EuroKera is indeed inferior material and higher maintenance. My last smoothtop range was a Whirlpool Gold, with the glass being manufactured by EuroKera. The instruction manual was very explicit when it stated the cooktop surface MUST be cleaned after each and every use--even if you were just heating up a can of soup or boiling water. Not only that, but the manual also recommended a monthly treatment with something called "Cooktop Protectant" that was made especially for Whirlpool, and (supposedly) left behind a thin film on the glass that helped repel stains and residues. I guess it was meant to perform kind of like a car wax? I don't know if it worked or not, since about all it did for me was make the glass surface extremely slippery and left a swirly residue in its wake, which only served to make the stove look dirty again--go figure... I don't know about you folks, but I find these newer smoothtop ranges to be higher maintenance and are meant strictly for people who don't cook--or cook very little. "Showroom" kitchens, if you will. None of my old smoothtops ever required this amount of obsessive care, nor did they require all kinds of different cleaners/polishes/waxes/creams, except for the occasional use of Cerama Bryte to removed burnt-on food. The instruction manual that came with this range contained so many "cautions", "warning", do's and dont's, that it might as well have said "Warning: Do Not Cook on This Range." The fact that any appliance needs this much care and attention to detail is frankly ridiculous and absurd. If you must settle on purchasing a smoothtop stove, insist on a GENUINE Ceran top manufactured by Schott Glass. |
ellen 02/28/17 |
Yep, they are tough to enjoy. And mostly hard to cook on seriously. |
bo_diddley 03/07/17 |
Ellen, do you remember those awful solid-disc elements that never really caught on? They enjoyed a brief honeymoon in the late 80's and early 90's, but soon fell out of favor. Poor heat control was the primary reason cited for people disliking them so much. I cooked on one of those things once, and seem to recall that it had two heat settings: High and Off. It didn't matter where you set the control dial, the blasted things were always WAY too hot... I've never had that much problem controlling the heat on my smoothtop, but there is a technique to cooking on these things. I've learned to anticipate when to adjust the heat, and compensate for temperature fluctuations. I have found that the best cookware to use are pots and pans that are completely flat-bottomed (encapsulated bases seem to work the best), medium to heavy weight, with tight fitting lids. Gas isn't an option where I live, so I'm stuck with electric. Like everything else in life, you get used to it and learn to adapt to its quirks. It's not THAT bad all things considered. My main beef, as I mentioned above, is how you practically have to "baby" these things in order to keep them looking half decent. The fact that you need to use all sorts of different cleaners and follow so many precautions using these ranges, is rather unconventional. I do not think this is practical for most people, especially if you're a heavy cook or make a lot of big meals. And I would NEVER consider letting kids cooks on these things, or install one in an apartment/rental unit. As a cooking device, they just seem too "fussy" to me for serious, everyday use... |