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Meat for large crowd
Craig
csphoto@epix.net
11/17/04
We're serving 170 people this weekend and aren't sure how much meat to buy. We are planning on turkey and ham. I've already purchased 55 pounds of raw boneless turkey and planning on 50 pounds of boneless ham as well. I'm concerned if this will be enough turkey.
ellen

11/18/04
Allowing for cooking loss, after cooking the turkey you will have around 45 pounds of cooked meat, which is one serving per person. You will have a bit more than that of the ham, it doesn't shrink as much. With all your side dishes it should be way plenty.

Use a roasting method that is low temp to reduse shrinkage.

Craig

11/19/04
Thank you Ellen
Sandy
lala_64@hotmail.com
11/27/04
I am cooking turkey for 200 people. i know how much to cook but someone told me there is a way to cook the turkey ahead of time and wrap it in some special way to keep it moist. I am serving it hot.
Kim

12/08/04
I am needing to know how many pounds of prime rib will I need to feed around 20 people?
Kim
jkhongs@gpcom.net
12/09/04
I really need to know soon, how many pounds of prime rib do I need to feed around 20 people.
ellen

12/09/04
A minimum of 1 pound per person raw with bones. It costs a mint, You will need more than one. A very clean oven roasts meat better becsudr iy does allow the action of infrared heat.
kay

12/15/04
I will be serving prime rib to 12 this weekend. I will have to transport it after before putting it on a bufeet to serve. Can I cook it ahead of time and reheat it just before I place it in the Cambro to be transported to buffet line? It is probably 20 minutes to destination.
ellen,

12/15/04
The IDEAL time to carve a prime rib is 1/2 hour to 40 minutes after it comes out of the oven. So time it so you pull it out of the oven just as you go out the door.

Definitely do NOT try to reheat if you want a perfect roast- and at the cost of prime rib, of course thats what you want!

Angela

01/02/05
I will be cooking pork loin for about 200 people should I assume that I will need a pound of meat for each person? Is it okay to cook ahead? Eventually it will be sliced and put into chafing pans.

Thanks
Angela

ellen

01/03/05
Unlike turkey or standing rib roase, pork loin is usually boneless, you need only 1 pound raw boneless pork loin for each 3 persons for a comfortable serving with ordinary side dishes. You will have the best if you do not reheat. If you are makong ahead do not microwave, pork doesn't tolerate it. Be sure to let it cool 30 minutes before slicing. Also, low heat roasting with a thermometer to 160, then remove fromm oven, it continues to cook.
Barbara
bsmclane@yahoo.com
03/12/05
how many pounds or Easter ham do I need to feed 30 people?
ellen

03/13/05
Check the very first question for your answer, or see the quantities for 100 button.
jody
jwozniak@adelphia.net
03/28/05
I am cooking roast beef and ham for 200 people.
How much of each do I need to fix?
Thanks.
jennife ward
princessjemini@aol.com
04/08/05
i am having 200 people for my wedding reception and would like to know how much tri-tip and how much chicken I should have? we will also be having baked beans and potato salad and green salad and rolls. is there a website i can go to to read up on all this?thankyou!!
ellen

04/09/05
Please check out my "Planning your reception" page and the related links in the Big Pots section. When you have more than one meat entree, you need a bit more than with a single entree, because some people eat both. I discuss how to estimate mixed entrees in the brisket and BBQ page of the Big Pots section.
In the quntities for 100 page in the same section, there is very extensive info on meat quantities.
DOLORES

05/12/05
I am have a barbeque and planning to serve Tri-tip. About 30 to 40 people. How much meat should I have?
ellen

05/16/05
This is lean and boneless. Assuming you are having some heavy sides, potatoes or potato salad, for example, you cen figure 1 pound lean raw boneless to serve 3 very nicely after roasting and shrinkage. This assumes you slice it- when people slice their own, they tend to take more!
Maureen
gfmc@telus.net
06/05/05
I'm cooking a boneless ham for 30 - 35 people. How much ham will I need and can I cook it ahead of time. Could you also give me directions to do this?

Thanking you in advance.

ellen

06/05/05
Boneless ham is usually already cooked, you need only to reheat it- 140 or higher on the meat thermometer.
3 people per pound for ample servings10-12 pounds cooked, which is 12-15 precooked.
I make a rub for this by moistening dark brown sugar with a few tablespoons of good mustard and a pinch or two of ground clove. Mix and pat a thin layer all over before baking.
Beth
sherrybss@yahoo.com
06/15/05
I am have a barbeque and planning to serve Chicken pieces (breasts, wings, drumsticks) and tri-tip for between 30-40 people. I figure more people will be interested in the tri tip than the chicken. How much chicken and meat should I have? Thanks in advance
ellen

06/15/05
BBQ caterers allow 4-5 ounces cooked beef (= 1 1/4 pound raw lean for 3 people) and 3 ounces cooked shicken (= 6 ounces whole raw chicken) per person for bbq type meals.
joe

06/22/05
i am cooking baby backs and chicken pieces for 200 people, how much chicken and ribs should i have and how could i keep the ribs warm without drying them out
ellen

06/23/05
expensive; 1 pound ribs per person, 1 chicken for each 5 persons. Chicken comes in 40 pound boxes, get 4. See the brisket and BBQ page for a good jerk ribs recipe that starts in the oven and finishes on the grill.
joe

06/23/05
thanks ellen, would you suggest cooking the ribs the day before, if so how much time does it take to reheat them
ellen

06/24/05
If you use the jerk recipe, you can do the oven part the day before. Just observe the caution of refrigerating quickly in single layers and making sure the fridge stays under 40 degrees. The recipe tells about finishing on the grill allow maybe 15 minutes on a good hot grill.
karen
bellakrh@aol.com
06/28/05
having bbq for 70-80--serving tri tip & want to serve bone in chiken thighs as well. can we cook chicken ahead and reheat in the oven?

what oven temp and time?

ellen

06/28/05
Lots of good recipes for tritip inder the "Santa Rosa barbecue" or "California baubecue" google search. Suggest you consider a simmered in sauce recipe for the chicken and use an 18 quart nesco roaster to prep a 40 pound case of bone in thighs on the day of the even- tastier and more interesting and SAFER than trying to reheat the chicken. Use a recipe such as the crockpot sticku cheidjen or dump chicken variations found all over the web.
karen

06/29/05
thank you so much, ellen!! the nesco roaster is the perfect idea. the sticky chicken sounds great and will complement our tri tip!
Beverly
FloridaMouse@cfl.rr.com
06/30/05
How many pounds of pork shoulder do I need for 15 hungry people?
ellen

06/30/05
3 pounds bone in, for each 4 persons, or you could get really ectravagant and figure 1 pound each, for leftovers.
Heather

07/07/05
I will be BBQing Tri-tip for 15 people this weekend. How many Tri-tips should I get, or how many ounces for each person.
Thank you!!
ellen

07/08/05
Tritips vary a lot in size, get all the same or nearly the same to make grilling easy. My favorite tritip griller says those over 3 pounds are harder to find but much the best. About 9 pounds raw should be great, but you know, leftover is mighty good cold...
Lori Beckert
lbeckert@lisco.com
07/28/05
I am helping a friend plan an anniversary reception and need to know quantities of food to buy. They are figuring on 250 people and want a menu of bbq pork, half bbq sauced and half plain, potato salad, and baked beans. Also probably some veggie platters.

We thought we'd use boneless pork butts. I need to know how many pounds of pork to buy and how many gallons of potato salad and baked beans to make.

Thanks!

sharron jensen
jensensl@msn.com
07/29/05
I want to cook pork loin at the 4-h food stand at county fair. I want it to be simple--plan to cook in an electric roaster. It will be sliced thick about 1/2 inch.I need tokeep fresh tasteing for several hours.
ellen

08/03/05
Lori please go to the Big Pots section quantities page and BBQ and Brisket page, all info included.

Sharron, pork shoulder or butt is juicier and holds better, it is also cheaper. Uuse a recipe with sauce or gravy or you will be having dry loins. Food safety requires you hold above 140 degrees and loin will dry out completely.

una
gmomma@aol.com
08/19/05
How much ham bone in do i need to feed 50 peopl
ellen

08/19/05
Hello, depends on whether it is shank, butt or whole ham, but 1 25 pound whole bone in ham is about right.
ellen

08/19/05
PS about the ham- if the guests will be slicing their own at a buffet, you need at least 5 pounds more.
nola
w8tbrass@frontiernet.net
08/28/05
I'm in charge of roasting 300lbs of boneless pork loin for a church dinner. I plan to roast the bulk of it in 4 large ovens, with the overflow in roasters. I estimate that I can get between 50 - 70 lbs of loin in each oven. If I cook them long and low at a temperature of 275 - 300 how much time should I allow for cooking?
ellen

08/29/05
Oh my, this could be many hour proposition. Are these convection ovens? And about how large are the individual pieces? Let me check further and get back to you.
nola
w8tbrass@frontiernet.net
08/29/05
No, the ovens aren't convection and they are notoriously slow. They are relatively old Southbend gas ovens. The pieces are whole loins about 6-8 lbs each (~5"x3"x18").
Megan
mmazzocco@sortimat.com
09/02/05
I am planning an Oktoberfest for about 40 men, at lunchtime. A pound of brats has four brats; how many pounds of brats should I order? I will also serve beer, buns for brats, saurkraut, potato salad and three desserts: German Choc Cake, Black Forest Cake and Apple Strudel
ellen

09/02/05
1 pound (4) for every 3 people, round up.
Don
spikezlove232000@yahoo.com
09/11/05
My soon rto be wife and I are planning a reception and figuring on approximately 250 people. We are planning on turkey and Ham as our main course. How much meat do we need to figure perperson?
ellen

09/12/05
Hi, Don,

Congratulations on both the wedding and being involved in the planning. First please read my article on planning your wedding reception in big pots, and consider having your wedding at a time of day that will not involove a sit-down meal. If you are planning to self-cater an event this size, you will be hard-pressed to enjoy your wedding!

That said, you generally allow six ounces cooked, ready to eat for a served plate and eight ounces for a buffet, as people often take some of both. More info about how to figurse from raw to ready to eat on the quantities for 100 guide in Big Pots.

Tracy
tracybailey1000@hotmail.com
09/15/05
I am planning a birthday party and there are about 40 guests I am planning on serving Roast Beef Potatoes and corn on the cob how much of this should I have I don't want to run out of food that would be embrassing. I will also have Macaroni salad a vegetable tray cheese and crackers. A 5Lb lasange and a 5Lb macaronic and cheese dish. please give me your advise right away as it is Thursday and the party is Satyrday thanks again. Tracy
marcy

09/15/05
I'm having 12 people for a bbqed lamb dinner, we are having potato salad, chulupa beans, pyrenes bread, blue cheese also. how much potato salad should I prepare?
ellen

09/15/05
If this is nuffet style but you preslice the meat,, allow
1 pound boneless meat for each 3 adults (14 pounds, usually two pieces USE a meat thermometer in the smaller one and take it out of the oven at around 135 unless everyone likes well done.
1 ear corn
1 small baking potato (I would peel, half, and roast with the roast)
1 1/2 gallons mac salad total
see veggie tray page in Big Pots for veggie and dip amounts, this is the cjeapest thing to have extra of and it keeps if left over.
5 pounds cheese (at least 3 kinds) and 3 pounds crackers
Pam
bljulisa@aol.com
09/22/05
I have accident(ly) volunteered to cook pork for a group of approx 300-500 people....I'm told that now it is 30 - 8# loin and 200 pieces of chicken....(am i nuts ??? you might ask?) I am supplied with one 8 foot propane cooker and one very large charcoal cooker....I've put together rubs for half the pork and basting for the entire amount of pork....Can you PLEASE offer me some help on cooking times and ANY other advice that you might have ???

THANK YOU, desperate in the mountains

ellen

09/24/05
Hmm, I have accidentlay done the same thing from time to time...
The good news, is, it is probably enough meat for this crowd.
You need an outdoor cooking expert to advise on this and I am not it. But It is usual to plan on 3-4 hours for a grill full of pork.
Lea
lstokes11@aol.com
10/18/05
I'm roasting 20 lbs of rump roast for a party. I have a Nesco. Any idea how long to cook it for and at what temperature?
ellen

10/19/05
To get a really tender rump roast, I would do it 1 hour at 350 and 15 hours at 180-200, with a meat thermometer. It will be tender and you can get thye desired degree of doneness including medium rare.
Kevin
kstaker@adelphia.net
10/22/05
i am cooking 50 lbs of tri tip then 50 pounds of chicken for a party today. i am cooking the tri tip this morning and then will cook the chicken just before the party. do I let the trip tip cool and then reheat or keep it warm all day long?
ellen

10/22/05
DO NOT "keep it warm all day long", it will both overcook and be in the danger zone for food germs! You would do better to do the chicken in an electric roaster, oven, or crockpots with a "sticky chicken" type recipe and cook the tritrip fresh.

Still, probably too late for that today. The tritip needs to be kept below 40 degrees once cooked.

Kay

10/27/05
I'm planning on making biscuits and sausage gravy for about 15-20 people. How much sausage and gravy do I need to make?
Kay

10/31/05
I'm surprised I never got a reply back regarding my question. Thank goodness we had other food and all did not eat biscuits and sausage gravy, because I wouldn't have had enough.
ellen

10/31/05
Dear Kay,
ellenskitchen.com is a one person operation; in addition to a regular full time plus job, I have been in bed with a fever and the flu since October 28. Your post came in after I had checked the bulletin board on the 27th and further, did not include an email address or indicate a time limit, so I was unaware of your urgency until your rebuke bumped it to the top today. It sounds like you had plenty of food.
FYI, if you are looking for an immediate response, either start a new thread or email at the address given at the bottom of every page. And don't be rude.
Ellen
Julianne
gloertli@hotmail.com
11/08/05
I am cooking roast beef for 120 servings, how do I cook 50 lbs.? It's for the 11th of November. Thank you ahead of time and I hope you are feeling much better by now.
ellen

11/08/05
First, try to get all the chunks as close as possible to the same size. Either all boneless or all not boneless. I like top round for thin sliced, medium rare beef.
Second, get a good instant read thermometer and a good meat thermometer.
Decide whether you will do it in one oven-full or two. If two, sort all the smaller ones into one batch, the larger ones into the other.
If you are doing NOT pot roast, preheat the oven to 350. Weigh the smallest roast. Season the roasts, put them in in shallow pans not covered, insert the meat thermometer into the middle of the thickest part of the smallest roast, not touching fat or bone, and into the oven. Roast 1 hour at 350 and turn down to 200. Estimate that you will cook 1 hour at 350 for the first pound of the smallest roast PLUS 1 hour at 200 for each additional pound of the smallest roast PLUS 30 minutes per each extra roast.
Example: 4 roasts, smallest is 7 pounds, 6 ounces.
1 hour at 350 PLUS
6 hours 20 minutes at 200 Plus for the first roast
1 hour 30 minutes at 200 for the 3 extra roasts.
TOTAL cooking time 8 hours 50 minutes, approximately

Your meat will be tender with an internal temp around 135- medium rare. Very little shrinkage with this method, but also not too much drippings. Get some extra beef bouillon or consomme for the gravy.

Don't open the oven very often. Check the internal temps on the thermometer starting when the first roast would have been done by itself.

If you want a pot roast and gravy type roast, I would stick with the old tried and true golfer's special- double foil, can of mushroom soup, package of onions soup mix or dried onions and beef bouillon pwder, handful fresh chopped parley, can of drained mushroom stems and pieces, cup of red wine if appropriate for the diners; seal all up; bake 6 hours for the first plus one additional hour for each additional roast at 275-300. Open very carefully over a large pan or platter; package will be FULL of steaming hot gravy, tender and tasty.

Julianne
gloertli@hotmail.com
11/09/05
Dear Ellen,
Thank you so much. All this meat is for
our Bench Supper at our Church on Friday
night. We feed our homeless and all the won-
derful families that can't afford to go out. It's so much fun for all.Not desperate anymore. St. Vincent de Paul, Sacred Heart.
Brenda
palmerbb@bellsouth.net
11/10/05
I am in charge of the turkey and dressing for our church Thanksgiving luncheon. How much turkey will I need for 1 serving each/100 people. I have bought 48 lbs. thus far. Do I need more?
ellen

11/10/05
Definately. If it is whole turkeys, you need AT LEAST 63 pounds and 100 would be more usual, unless it is mostly ladies and seniors. I am posting a bunch of pages on prepping large amounts of turkey this weekend. Check the new pages page on Monday.
Karen
thecedfamily@yahoo.com
11/12/05
I am in charge of the food at a banquet at my church. We are expecting aprox 140 people and we are serving standing rib roast and ham how much of each do you think we need?
ellen

11/12/05
Well, you could probably pay off the mortgage for what the beef may cost you.

It is usual to allow 1 pound raw bone in per person with a standing rib! Even with the ham, I would not go below 12 ounces/3/4 pound per person, or 3 pounds for every 4 persons.

For the ham, 1 pound boneless cooked, ready to eat for every 5 persons.

Please do look into alternatives. A top quality bottom round (choice grade or higher) is a fine oven roast, you have to get them from a real butcher. It is boneless, costs less per pound and you only need 1/2 pound per person, so the total is half or less what the stnding rib will cost.

Consider contracting with a restaurant or other professional kitchen that has an "Autosham" roasting oven to cook these for you, it is done very slow (overnight) and there is much less shrinkage than in any regular of convection ove. to

wendy
rblunier@verizon.net
11/12/05
we are hosting a large family christmas and were hoping to serve individual ham balls/ loafs for aprox. 120 can you possibly give the amount of meat and recipe for such a large number ? please include a basting sause recipe if you have one. Also I wish to prepare ahead and cook in a Roaster.? how much time should I allow , and how much help should I seek?

May your days be blessed as we go into this wonderful holiday season.

wendy

ellen

11/12/05
You want to allow about 4 meatballs per person, 4 ounces, which is 3 ounces cooked ham ground, which is 360 ounces or 23 pounds. The ham slices and ends, such as Jonson Brothers, is fine for these. Use any good meatball recipe, minimum spice, maybe a bit of pumpkin pie spice and dill. A pineapple and mustard dipping sauce would be a grand choice, with BBq also.

Make a month ahead, bake in the oven on cookie sheets; freeze in a single layer and then bag up, defrost in the refrigerator 2 days or more.

Hugo

11/14/05
im feeling nice today... mind a little --? we should mee up some time
Jennifer
Jennifer.Brooks@nellis.af.mil
11/14/05
I am having 15 people over this weekend, and am cooking a ham. How big of a Ham should I buy?
ellen

11/14/05
boneless, 1 pound for every three people, big bone 1 pound for every 1 1/2 people, little bone, one for every 2 people. A lottle more if you want extras of leftovers.
Cori

11/16/05
We are having my husbands office over for a christmas dinner and would like to serve beef tenderloin. How many pounds should I account for 45 people?
ellen

11/16/05
Unfortumately people eat a lot of this, especially if it is buffet style. You want at least 2 poiunds for everty 5 people, and 2 poynds fo every 4 may be metter. I suggest a big dish of whole mushrooms just before the meat dish, and be sure YOU slice the meat. Use a fork and not a spatula to serve this.
Karen

11/17/05
Can I make a prime rib in the nesco?
ellen

11/17/05
Definitely, but unless you have the one with the fan inthe lid it will not get that crispy roasty crust that is so delicious. The cooking space is moister than a regular oven. Use the same temps as a regular ovem if youu want rare take it out at an internal temp of 120-125, and lbe sure to let it rest at least 30, and up to 50 minutes before carving.
Kelsey

11/18/05
How long should you cook a turkey that weighs 23 pounds
ellen

11/18/05
Kelsey, without being amart alecky, you cook it till done; it depends completely on whether it is stuffed (longer) or unstuffed (shorter), whether it is brined (shorter), whether you use a bag (shorter), open roaster or grill (shortest), and the temperature you use. You can cook this turkey safely done in about 2 1/2 hours at 475, but at 325 it may take 5 to 6 hours.
Use a real meat thermometer, not the pop up thingie, and bring the breast to 150. Yes that is lower than most people say, but it is perfectly safe, as the temp continues to rise during the 50 minutes a bird this size needs to "rest" before you carve it.

Next time you may want to cook two 12-14 pounders, it is easier...

ellen

11/18/05
Here is a site for roasting a 20 pound plus turkey using the faster high heat method:
www.stillwatersgroup.com/recipes/roast_turkey.htm
MaryAnn
mshee523@yahoo.com
11/18/05
My family and I are having a beef and beer benefit for approx. 250 people. Could you let me know how many lbs. of roast beef we need and also how many kegs of beer and soda?
ellen

11/18/05
I am not familiar with this event, but assume you want a pot roast or Italian beef type recipe using chuck roast on boneless short ribs, also that you will have big buns for sandwiching, potato salad baked beans and other heavy sides to reduce the beef consumption, If YOU serve the beef, you wnat to start with 1 pound raw boneless for each three people. If they serve themselves or get unlimited refile, one pound for 2 persons.

As for the beer, it depends VERY MUCH on whether the eaters pay by the glass or it is inclded in the ticket cost. By the glass, they drink less and your profit will be better. Write back and let me know.

Shelia A
sdavis1002@aol.com
11/18/05
Green beans & Potatoes
Hello, I am in charge of a Thankgiving Dinner and I am trying to determine how many ozs. I should give out for 200 people.

1 Large Can of Green beans is 103 ozs. Help Please :)

ellen

11/18/05
I allow 3 cans for 60 people for plain green beans. If you are using canned small potatoes, replace each 1 can of green beans with 2 cans of small potatoes, for howver much potatoes you want:

11 cans green beans, straight or 9 cans green beans and 3-4 cans tiny potatoes.

kala
funky_chick_babe@yahoo.com
11/21/05
how long should you cook a turkey that weighs 23 pounds?
Spring
springayala@sbcglobal.net
11/21/05
Cooking a ham in between going to 2 different home
My mother-in-law asked me to make a ham. I'm going to my parents home in the afternoon and my mother-in-laws after that. I can't bring the ham to my mother's. Is there a way I can low cook it at home and pick it up on the way to my mother-in-laws without ruining it?
ellen

11/21/05
Kala, check the roasting turkey thread. It should be thawing in the regrigerator already.

Spring, you don't identify the size or type of the ham or the amount of time involved in the firdt visit. Boneless takes longer than bone-in of the same weight.

Ypu can set the oven at 325 for an uncooked hame and let it cook 20-25 minutes per pound before cone, So you just pick the right size ham for the time you need; for example, 3 hours at your mom plus 1 hour travel time= 4 hours,; 3 pound psr hour= 12 pounds. Put in right before you leave, done and ready to transport when you get home. It needs to be out of the oven at least 1/2 hour before you carve it, anyway.

Really great "How to cook a ham" with lots of phoyors at Hotmel:
hormel.com/templates/knowledge/knowledge.asp?catitemid=106&id=749&floater=disabled

christina
cjw1@persona.ca
11/22/05
cooking turkey
how many pounds of uncooked turkey do i need for serving 175 people
ellen

11/22/05
Here is the page you need:

www.ellenskitchen.com/turkey/planshop.html

Get the smaller turkeys if possible, it is very late to start safely thawing 20 pounders. Or you can cook from frozen- see the thread on roasting frozen turneys.

paula mitchell
mitchell4501@comcast.net
12/01/05
I will be serving boneless prime rib roast for 120 people and I need to know how much meat I should buy. My recipe calls for a 10# roast to serve 12 people. Can this possibly be? Does the roast shrink a lot when it is cooked? It seems like such a large portion of meat per person.
ellen

12/02/05
Yes Paula, you lose at least 40% up to 55% of the weight in cooking, so a pound raw becomes 7- 10 ounces cooked. Bone-in (and it cooks better bone in) and trimmed, I recommend at leats 1 pound per person.

The safest and least loss cooking is tio use an Autosham roast and hold oven, a special oven found in meat-cooking restaurants. Yo0u might be able to have this done for you, and if uyou have never cooked this for this many people, you might save a LOT of grief, and maybe some money, by subcontracting out this task.

This is why many dinners have steamship round with a carver- it costs less than the plated prime rib...n

Alan
athurston@cyberportal.net
12/02/05
I have a 22 pound bone-in prime rib to cook. How long does it have to be cooked to reach medium to medium rare? Prefer closer to medium.
ellen

12/03/05
Yummy. Did you take out a mortgage?

I like a recipe on recipe.com: /83431, T.M. perfect prime rib. You MUST invest in a good meat thermometer. You want an internal temp around 150 for "cloder to medium" I would go 140, myself...

louise

12/07/05
Ellen _ i am cooking a 20# top round roast in a convection oven. have you any tips on the perfect way to cook this and about how long it would take to get to medium rare? I am assuming I should cook it to that so that people may have Well Done from the sides and rare from the middle? Also have you any tips on keeping it warm on a buffet line. I do not have access to on one of those meat warmer lights you see at a resturant. Thanks for your help and Web site!
Marie
mhacljda@aol.com
12/08/05
Potatoes for large crowd
How many potatoes would I need for a group of 30-35 people? Could I make them up the night before I need them? THANKS
Kristin
parksideproperties@earthlink.net
12/08/05
I am cooking a roast beef for christmas for what 14 adults. How much roast beef should I purchase? What temp should I cook for how long?
Stephen
stjujohn@yahoo.com
12/09/05
I will have 20+- people and wondering how much bone-in-ham i would need.

thanks much.

Shontelle
dmoshomo@cox.net
12/09/05
I am serving pot roast for 40 poeple. How much should I buy and also garlic mashed potaotes.
ellen

12/11/05
Louise, a meat thermometer is critical/ I would cook 1 hour at 350 after rubbing all over with garlic and spices and sprinkling with flour, then about 40 minutes per pound at 225-250 degrees to an internal temp of 135-140 for medium rare all the way through. Less shrinkage and it will be very tender. Let sit at least 40 minutes out of the oven before slicing.

Marie. depends on the dish, but about 13 pounds. To prepare mashed ahead use my freezabale holdable mashed potato recipe in the big pots section.

Kistin, you need 1 pounds per person for bone in standing rib roast, but only about 2 pounds for evry three persons for choice bottom round. Write back when you decide what kind of roast and how big.

Stephen, about 14 pounds would be just enough if YOU carve and serve, but if it is buffet or self serve you want 20 pounds.

Shontelle, I buy 1 pound of boneless chuck roast for eac 2 people and cook it very slowly (oven baked in gravy, or crockpot). Use the freezable holdable mashed potatoes for 25 on the big pots page fpor your potatoes.

Stephen
stjujohn@yahoo.com
12/12/05
For the bone-in-ham ratio, is it the same as the boneless ham?
Diana
dianawolf99@hotmail.com
12/14/05
Ham for a buffet
I am serving buffet for Christmas. Baked ziti, ham and meatballs as main dishes. For 16 people (2 vegetarians) I bought a 7.5 lb. bone-in ham. I also have about 40 meatballs and 2 large trays baked ziti. Is this ham too small???
Darlene
dar1994@adelphia.net
12/15/05
I am serving Fresh Polish Sausage for Christmas dinner. We have about 20 people coming. About how much meat do we need to buy?
ellen

12/16/05
Stephen, about 1/2 of the raw weight of the bone-in ham is bone or cookuking loss, you only end up with 2 modest 3 1/2 ounce cooked servings from your starting pound. Boneless, you can be sure of 3 of these servings, sometimes more.
Diana, you won't have leftovers, but you should have enough. Slice it yourself, very thinly, and spread across the tray.
Darlene, if this is fresh unsmoked, at least 1 pound for each 2 1/2 people. I would get at least 10 pounds...
Patricia Shoemake
patricia.shoemake@firstcitizensonline.co
12/19/05
Cooking a Rump Roast
What is the best way to cook a rump roast that is 7 1/2 pounds? I would like to cook it with dry heat and I want it well done. Can this be done?
ellen

12/20/05
This is a good roast for this task. Start with it at room temp for 1-2 hours. You rub it all over with your chosen spice or seasoning rub and sprinkle with flour. Cook in an oncovered pan, 1 hour for the first pund at 325 then 50 minutes for each additional pound at 200-225, so aoout 6 1/2 hours all together. Check internal temp with thermometer, you want 150 for well done, pull it out and let sit under a foil tent for 30 minutes to reabsorb its juices while you make gravy, etc.
clemente
blacky@awesomenet.net
12/20/05
need to know how many brisketm, beans, potatos,
bread, pickles, onions, and bar nb que sause would i need to server aboout 100 people.

thank you for any advice that you can help me with

clemente sanchez

ellen

12/22/05
You need to check the directions for amounts on the BBQ page and the quantities for 100 page in the Big Pots planning section. It covers all these foods-
Nicola
nicolaking67@hotmail.com
12/22/05
I've purchased a 14 pound rump roast to serve approx 18 people, and wish to know, for a roast that large, at what temp and how many hours should I roast? (I have great recipe including dijon mustard and thyme, shallots and cabernet) Thanks for any help
ellen

12/22/05
Nicola, it must be the season for rump roast, I just answered that question about 4 lines up in this thread.
sherle
sherle33@aol.com
01/05/06
how much roast beef would i need for a beef and beer for 250 people there will be meatballs too
Jim Honberger
BigJtravel@aol.com
01/08/06
Hi Ellen...
We have our daughter's wedding comming up and she wants BBQ chicken and tri tip. There will be 200 people there. Please give us some help as to how much to buy of each? How much in pounds of meat to figure? Thanks for the advice.
ellen

01/10/06
Sherle, assuming chuck roast, I would get 1 pound raw boneless for each 3 people, andf about 3 ounces meatballs per person.

Jim, you want abvout 8 ounces total cooked meat per person, If someone is serving and carving the tritip, you will use less than if it is self serve. Allow 1 piece of chicken per person, which is 1 chicken for every 6-8 persons, and 1 pound raw tritip for each 3 persons. More chicken is cheaper than more tritip.

polly

01/29/06
Ellen Hi, We are feeding 50 people Boneless Prime Rib. How much Meat do I need. And how do I prepare it?
Jeff

01/29/06
Hello Ellen...Great site...I've offered my help for a good friend of mine's wedding reception. I make a mean pulled pork, but I need to know how much bone-in pork butt roast I am going to need to feed 175 people. Thanks so much for any help.
Mattie D. Scott
02/01/06
I plan to serve roast beef au juis, roast pork with apple dressing and chicken stir fry as the main entrees at my daughters wedding reception. I need to know the quantity amount of each item I will need to purchase when planning for 200 people.
Narita
02/02/06
I am fixing a meal for our doctor's office. I am having BBQ meatballs - so far I have made 9 l pounds how much would I need to feed 48 people. Also how many potatoes would I need to buy for mashed potatoes. They will be serving themselves. I have an electric roaster to keep the meatballs warm in, as the lunch will be over a 2 hour period. I am putting the vegetables and mashed potatoes in crockpots on low. But I am also baking fresh yeast rolls, is there a way to keep them warm in an electric roaster for that long without crisping them? One roaster has direct heat and the other is an older one where you fill the bottom with water and the pan sit on top in contact with the water. Thanks!
ellen
02/03/06
Polly, if you read up the thread you will see some comments. Cook carefully, this is so expensive. And without fail, let stand 30 minutes before carving.

Jeff, if this is the ONLY meat, you will want at least 1 pound well-trimmed raw for each 2 people. I would consider adding some sausages or smoked sausages.

Mattie, estimating multiple entrees is the toughest item on the caterer's list, and 3 is much harder than 2, and buffet service much harder than plated service. If it is plated, you can ask for and RSVP with the wedding invitation. If you have a carver/server for the beef you will use quite a bit less than for a self service buffet. I discuss this on the barbecue planning page, with examples. Most likely, half the people will want roast beef, 30 percent pork, the rest chicken, but the only thing I can tell y9u for sure is allow 8 ounces cooked, bneless meat total for each person. Also, 10-20 people will want a vegetarian entree due to health or religious reasons.

Narita, 18 pounds of potatoes. About the same of meatballs. Rolls could go in another large crockpot on low, they don't crisp up or dry out if covered, and don't forget the real butter.

Heather
02/06/06
Lunch meat for 30 people ?
Hi Ellen,
My daugter has commited to brining a meat & cheese tray for an event for school and to save some money we would like to make our own platters. Could you help us out with how much we would need. Thank you!
ellen
02/06/06
2 ounces of cheese slices and 4 ounces of deli (thin) sliced meats per person is a generous amount. You can reduce costs by making a really good chicken salad from scratch for part of the meat.
Linda
02/15/06
Menu for a large Crowd
I am hosting a 40th bday party for 150pp. Am unsure of how much food to serve. I am planning on 10 hot entrees and cold buffet as well. Is two full half deep trays of each entree enough? Please help! Thanks!
ellen
02/15/06
I have never planned for 10 entrees for this size crowd. If you are talking the cafeteria style 4 inch deep pans, 2 half pans is enough for 25 servings and you are planning 250 entree servings plus cold buffet? Sounds like too much...

Remember the basic idea per person- 6-8 ounces cooked ready to eat meats, total, is a generous amount. About 1 1/2 cups side dishes such as slaws, beans, salads, etc. 1/2 cup serving for each vegetable, 3/4 to 1 cup for potatoes or rice. So total up all your planned food and then go to the quantities for 100 tables and compare.

Jeff
02/16/06
Thanks for the help with the pork roast...I really dig your site.
Julie
02/27/06
Help!! I have agreed to fix the food for my sons bowling banquet this Saturday 3/5. I would like to cook pork loin & chicken brest for 150 people. Can you please tell me how many pork loins i might need and how long they should cook, also the same with the chicken. Were also going to fix cheezy potatoes. I really need help. Thanks
ellen
02/27/06
Roasted pork loin- You want to get the same size for each oven full. Hours cooked based on the cooking tme for the smallest plus about 20-30 minutes for each additional roast in the oven. Use a thermometer.

Plan on 90 servings of each meat, see the plan for 100 guide for amounts raw.

You want to start with 50 pounds raw potatoes. Suggest you use Nesco roasters or crock pots for this. Time depends on size of cookers.

Rita
03/13/06
I will be hosting a Beef & Beer fundraiser. I plan on having roastbeef, roastpork & meatballs. How many pounds of each shoyuld I plan on having for 150 people?
Wendy
03/13/06
I'm planning on cooking for 100-120 people for my 25th anniversary. Social Hall we are using has a full kitchen. I'm planning on serving port roast and Turkey. I want to cook the meat in my Rival BBQ slow cooker. If I cook the meat ahead of time and freeze will that be oaky?
ellen
03/16/06
Rita, you would allow 8 ounces of cooked boneless meat per person for a dinner, but for a fundraiser you should consider having some heavy side dishes such as potato salad or beans to get down to about 5 ounces cooked ready to serve. See my plan for 100 page for raw equivalents.

Wendy, the meats will be safe to freeze, but do see my instructions on reheating turkey. You want a good amount of sauce or gravy in the pan for reheatingto keep the meats moist.

Tina
03/17/06
I am having 13 people over for dinner. I plan to start with cocktails and horderves. I am making two pork tenderloins and a london broil. Does that sound like enough meat?
ellen
03/17/06
Assuming the meats are about 3 pounds each, you will have plenty, even some left over if you serve at the table- people eat more at buffets than served sitting.
Erin
03/18/06
I am cooking tri-tip for about 75 people and would like to be able to cook it in crockpots. How long should I plan on cooking it to have it well done but still able to slice, not falling apart too much? Will it be as good as when you grill it? I am going to marinate the meat overnight. Should I just put the meat in the crockpot or add some of the mariante as well?
jason
03/24/06
I am having a party for about 50-60people, 45 adults, the rest children give or take.

Is this enough meat: 18-lb Whole Ham with Bone, 10-lb picnic and 9-lb picnic. How long to cook in oven and what tempature so it falls off the bone so I can shred it for serving pan? I do have a convection oven.

Thanks!

Ruth
03/24/06
I've been ask to caterer a graduation party for 150 people prime rib and chicken cononblue
I get mix up how much of the meats do I need.I know i allow 1lb. of beef to a person but I'm fixing to meats thats where I get confuse I want to make sure I have enough. She also wants hot crab dip how much crab meat do I need
Sue
03/25/06
Meat and Cheese Platter
I am making a deli lunch meat and cheese tray for about 38 people. How much of each do I buy? Thank you.
ellen
03/26/06
Erin, it will make pot roast, it's good pot roast, but is that what you want?

Jason, I assume these are all bone in, it is enough meat, but you can't cook these different sizes all the same time. Also, it is not clear if any are pre-cooked?

Ruth, this is a very expensive meal, are you getting paid at least $24 per person? You need to email me at the updates email address below to give further information.

Sue, allow at least 4-5 ounces of deli meats and 2-3 ounces of sliced cheese per person.

Lori
04/03/06
I am having about 40 people for a party. I am planning to serve fajitas (beef and chicken). How many lbs of each do you think I should prepare? What would be the best cut of beef to use?
Thank you for your help!
ellen
04/04/06
People like fajitas and eat a lot of them. Start with 1 pound raw boneless meat total per person. You would use a bit less if you only had one; people eat some of both when both are available. Use chicken thighs cut across the grain for juiciness/moisture and better chicken flavor. Flank steak or skirt steak is traditional, but now that it is premium priced, you could consider top sirloin or top quality top round.

You know the trick of partially freezing the beek so yu can cut the thin shredds across the grain. Fajitas means rags, and the meat is sxpected to be thin, not really stips as often seen.

Both chicken and beef should be marinated overnight before grilling.

Leanna
04/12/06
I'm having 50 people (all adults except for approx. 10 children)--- I'm having fried chicken---How many pieces of fried chicken per person should I estimate?? Thank you!!
ellen
04/12/06
2 pieces per adult, 1 piece for kids, 3 for teens and any really big eaters- you want around 30-35 pounds total depending on the sides.
Jeanna
04/15/06
We are having 20 people for dinner. We have a 10 lb prime rib and 6 pound leg of lamb. Is it enough meat for the group?
tracy
04/16/06
hi i bought a bone in ham i need to know how long to cook it. its a bottom piece and its enought to feed four people so its not real big thank you
ellen
04/16/06
Jeanna, yes, as long as you have some nice side dishes and preferably you carve-

Tracy, raw smoked ham? 20-25 minutes per pound, you don't say the weight. Use a thermometer, cook to 160 internal temp.

Peggy
05/08/06
Ellen, what a great and helpful site. I have offered to cater a class reunion for 140 people. I am planning on roast beef and chicken. I can' t come up with a recipe for the chicken, I am leaning to a cream sauce? I am unsure of the best way to keep it warm without drying it out, or the best time to start cooking it. any suggestions would be appericated. Thanks Peggy
Alice
05/08/06
My son is getting married in July. Caterer is leaving town and I just found out. How can I cook roast beef( what cut?) ahead and possibly cut and freeze...I have a roaster oven, can I use it to reheat? the reception will be buffet in our backyard...this is for 150 people. H E L P...frazzled mother of the groom
ellen
05/08/06
Peggy, just lately I am on a coq au vin kick for chicken, tender, juicy, plenty of sauce, can be made a day or two ahead and reheated with only improvement in the flavor... I will try to get a recipe posted tis weekend.

Alice, bad luck! Do check around for other caterers, and remenber that some churches have a group of ladies who can be hired to manage the kitchen for wedding dinners. Suggest you consider a potroast type beef such as beef bourginon or beef with mushrooms if you want to cook ahead and reheat. You will need 2 to 3 roasters for this many people.

Chuck roast is juicier for pot roast, sirloin tip roast is leaner. Get a real butcher to cut for you, roast LARGE pieces covered in the oven.

Read about reheating in the section on reheating turkey, link at the top of the Big Pots page.

Peggy
05/09/06
Thanks I'm looking forward to it. Thanks again
Larry Zalewski
05/09/06
veggies
Need to make 60-80 baked potatoes, going to make at home and then reheat in two nescos for a potatoe bar at work.....foil or no foil, cook all the way at home and then re heat or just cook partially, or cook the whole time from scratch at work??
Bill
05/28/06
We volunteered to host my father's 90th birthday party for 60 people. We were going to have it catered but by the time we rented a tent/tables/chairs etc. the budget is blown. Now we're feeling a bit overwhelmed since we've never cooked for this large a crowd before.
We plan on a buffet of Penne Pasta w/vodka sauce, Pork loin, roasted potatoes, polska kielbasa and peppers. How much food do we need and can we cook any of this a day ahead. HELP. Thanks.
ellen
05/29/06
Larry there is a whole new page on baked potato bars with how to's, transport- should be all you need.

Bill, First of all, remember this is going to be a great day- 60 people is VERY POSSIBLE in a family kitchen. You are going to aim for 1 1/2 pounds total of food per adult; a bit less for over 60, especially women, more like 1 pound.

You can use my quantity tables for 100 and make 6/10 or 60% of idividual items.

This is not a complete menu, and also not an inexpensive one, rather on the high side of medium. Three entrees for 60 people adds about 20% to costs, because it is quite difficult to get the right amounts, so you have to add a fudge factor, plus people take some of everything, so they eat more.

Also, are these foods your dad especially likes? Because if the party included quite a few elders, this is not a menu I would select to please either for taste mix or convenient eating- rather greasy, spicy, heavy, etc., and everything has to be cut and eaten with two hands. Please think about altermatives and write back with more info.

Peggy
06/03/06
Ellen I was wondering if you ever found the chicken recipe? Also what adjustments if any need to be made if I am giing to say 10 x a recipe without losing taste texture? (mashed potatoes, Cream Sauce)
ellen
06/03/06
Sorry, Peggy, here is the page:
www.ellenskitchen.com/recipebox/coqauvin.html

Cream sauce, no change. Mashed potatoes, just remember not to add any liquid until you have the potatoes completely smooth- they get gluey the longer you beat them after the liquid is added.

Bill
06/05/06
Ellen, Thanks so much for your quick response..I really appreciate it. Over the past week my wife and I have gone back and forth on what to do about my dad's 90th and since it will happen on the 17th of June I'm getting a little stressed. (I'm the chief cook and bottle waher in the family).

We've figured out a better menu...we think....Appetizers to start will be...melon wrapped prochutto....puffs stuffed with spinach/artichkes...shrimp/coctail sauce....mozzorella sticks.... humus/carrots/pita chips..and misc dips/chips for the kids.

We planned the main menu as polska kielbasa(lite version) cooked on bbq with just enough yellow/red peppers for color..(I figure we can do this the day before and reheat)...Penne pasta with vodka sauce...roasted pork loin and a green salad with strawberries/mandarin oranges and very light balsamic vinegar dressing. On the east coast you can never go to a party without baked ziti (we tried to lighten it up using a bottled vodka sauce we tried from Costco and adding petit fourse diced tomatoes, no meat and not bake with cheese). My dad likes lamb chops but I already let him know I'll cook these for him another time but couldnt handle that for a party. He's tired of chicken and turkey which he eats all the time so thats why we picked the pork loin. My family eats pretty basic bland food, his wife's family is from Jamaica and they like it a little spicier. DILEMA.
Should we add a cold deli platter for those that might want to make a sandwich? And if so would we need to add potato salad or something like it?
Dessert is a sheet cake and brownines..coffee and tea.
Thanks Ellen.....Bill

ellen
06/06/06
Hey Bill,

Sounds like you need a few deep breaths- you are doing fine.

This looks very nice, especially the appetizers. Have you considered ham instead of the pork loin? Easier to handle and heat, kids like it better, doesn't dry out as quickly and solves the sandwich problem- just add good bread or rolls to the table. You could make a honey-mustard sauce that would spice it up as a side dish.

The best compromise for the taste gap is with your side dishes and condiments. I suggest you look at the spicy Nepalese potato salad near the bottom of the slaws, mac and potato salad page. It is beautiful and very delicious. The artichoke condite marinated artichoke hearts wth olives and other vegetables) can be made ahead, keeps well and is great. And you might consider making a gallon of the spicy garlic dills on the chili page (doctored from store-bought, so very simple, and great with sausages, etc)

You could also consider doing the sausage and peppers in a Nesco roaster instead of the grill and reheat method.

Don't forget your coffee and beverages...

Gwen
06/07/06
We are having a family reunion and need to know how much meat to buy for 150 people. We are having barbeque pork ribs, pork steak, hot dogs and hamburgers.
ellen
06/07/06
The ribs and steaks are bny and fat, allow 1 pound raw per person served. Burgers, 1.2 to 1.5 patties per person served. Hot dogs (let me encourage you to consider gatting kielbasa, Polish sausage, or another grown up sausage instead- even kids like them better), 5-8 ounces per person served. You have to decide about how many will want each thing, then just multiply.
Jamie
06/22/06
WE are having a graduation party for aprox. 50 people and will be having nachos (with taco meat) and hot wings. Help!!!! I am clueless as to how much hamburger, chix wings and cheese sauce to get.
ellen
06/22/06
For teens,I allow 3 hot wing pieces per hour per person- maybe two different flavors- they like them and eat a lot. The nachoes are very similar to tacos in amounts, check a recipe for 100 and use 1/2 to estimate your quntity. They eat more if the party replaces lunch or dinner than if it is after dinner or after lunch.
lisa
06/24/06
hi i am planning a dinner for 70 people would like to serve bonless rib roaoat mashed pototes hw many lbs of meat should i get and how many pounds of potatoes do i nee thanks lisa
ellen
06/24/06
Lisa, most quantity questions are answered in the plan for 100 tables on this site. For example, potaoes for 100 are 35 pounds, so you want about 3/4 for 70. You do not say if you mean prime rib/standing rib, top round, or what exactly for the leat, and the amounts differ vastly. There is a thread on prime rib (April 2006) below this one in cook talk and there are several questions and rsponses for prime rib in this thread. If you need further help after reading them please write further.
Angie
06/25/06
baked ziti 75 people
How much pasta, cheese (mozarella/ricotta) and meat do I need to make baked ziti for 75 people? It's my first time cooking for so many people. Please help ASAP! thank you for your help.
ellen
06/25/06
Hi, you have picked a good recipe to start with.

The baked mastaciollli and sausage for 120 on the lotsa pasta page will give you a quantity guide. If you are omitting meat/sausage, make 3/4 of the recipe approximately, for this size group. The only trick is to remember that baking times change as the amount in the oven changes- if you put casseroles on two racks, you need to rotate a few time top to bottom; if the depth is over 2 1/2 inches, add about a half hour per inch; and if the casseroles go from the refrigerator to the oven, instead of being assembled and baked immediately, add another 30-40 minutes. Remember as the time gets longer that you may need to cover the dishes for most of the cooking time to keep the top from drying out.

andy
07/07/06
i am cooking 20lbs of bbq ham. i need to know how many buns i need to buy to serve all of the ham.
ellen
07/07/06
If boneless, this will make 70 to 100 sandwiches- more if you preslice thin, less if people are slicing their own.
Leisa
08/08/06
I am having 120-150pp, 20- 30 years old for light snacks and apps. The food is free, how many dips wpuld you prepare with hot dogs and either wings or Quesadillas? How many wings or Quesadillas would you prepare? I plan on 160 hot dogs.
Thanks Leisa
ellen
08/08/06
I like to prepare one "bulk type" appetizer (platter, dip, etc) for each 25 people.

The amount of food depends on the time of day and the length of the party, and whether or not alcohol is served. For 1 hour not over a meal time, 6 bites/items per person. Add 4-6 more for each hour for each person.

If over a mealtime, people will eat as much as for a dinner, you will need at least 3 times as much food, more if alcohol is served.

janice
08/13/06
potato salad
how much potato salad do i need to feed about
100 to 110 people.thanks
ellen
08/14/06
Make with 40 pounds of fresh potatoes, there are MANY recipes on site for this amount.
Jenny
08/17/06
How many loins would I need to feed 150-200 people? We are also having baked beans, cole slaw, and buns for our wedding in September? Thanks!
ellen
08/17/06
If for pulled pork sandwiches, you need 1 pound raw boneless for each 5 sandwiches. Sliced and roasted 2 pounds raw boneless for 5 persons.
BELINDA (WENDY) ZEIG
08/26/06
not cooking for large crowd.i thought you could send me some advice or an answer asap to my delimea.what is a picnic shoulder & do you cook it like a ham or a pork roast.???? do you have any reciepes,please.you can just e-mail as i want to cook it tomorrow (sunday) but can wait till monday. can't seem to find any help any where!!!!
ellen
08/26/06
Hi, Belinda,

You did not leave an email address!

Picnic shoulder is the same as chuck on a cow. It is a moist, rather fatty meat, much less dry than ham or loin and my favorite piece of pork. To roast, use a meat thermometer, cook it to 160 internal using a low and slow roast for slicing. Go to 200 for pulled pork.

You can use any flavoring or marinade recipe for pork loin for this piece.

Or cut it up for stew. Very popular here in Texas.

M. Gil
08/31/06
How many pounds of large shrimp to feed 75 people?
I am having other foods. How many pounds of large shrimp would I need to feed 75 people?
ellen
08/31/06
If these will be an appetizer-type, allow 3 per person- figure the pounds based on the number per pound for the size you buy. If an entre5 to 8 per person.
ella
09/06/06
I am serving a top sirloin roast for 22-25 people. do you have any suggestions as to how many pounds my roast should be and any cooking tips? I will be using a convection oven.
Thanks for all your help, you are a wonderful resource!
ella
09/06/06
P.S.

There will also salmon as an entree as well. It's a buffet.

ellen
09/06/06
When serving beef and another entree for a party buffet, I allow for 5 ounces cooked beef and 3 ounces of the other entree per person. Top sirloin is a lean, boneless cut, so I would allow 3 pounds for each 10 people if you cook it low and slow so it doesn't shrink much, so 8 pounds all together. 1 pound raw salmon for 5 people, so 5 pounds all together.
tina
09/21/06
I need help we are having a retirement party for about 100 people and i am doing the cooking , we are having ham and shredded roast beef sandwhiches, how long should i cook 3 picnic hams in my 18qt roaster and a 23 pd sirloin tip roast . please help the party is the 30th of september.. Thank so much Tina
ellen
09/21/06
Of course you cook the two meats separately.

FOR THE BEEF IN THE ROASTER
Cooking a roast medium rare to medium is a safe bet for a large group of people, especially if reheating. The end pieces will be well done and the middle will be more rare which will give your guests a variety to choose from. That is an end temp of 130-135 degrees, and since the temp goes up AFTER it comes out of the oven, you should take it out around 125 degrees. As you remove from the oven, tent roast with aluminum foil; let stand 60 minutes. Temperature will continue to rise 5°F to 10°F to reach medium doneness.

Slice when cooler if storing for later. Using meat slicer, slice rested roasts thinly across the grain for optimum tenderness. If no slicer, you want a VERY SHARP knife.

Trim most fat from beef roasts; season. Place on rack. Do not cover; do not add liquid unless you do the gravy below. The thermometer needs to go in the middle of the piece in a nice thick muscle.

Rup in any spice or rub you want to use. If you are a garlic family, stab with a thin knife and slide in bits of garlic to taste.

For a slightly more potroasty effect, you seal it all up in a foil package with the tight multifolded closures that don't leak. If you do it this way and want saucy gravy, put a cup of dried onion flakes, about 6 cans of cream
of mushroom soup on top the roast before sealing.

For a more roast beef type texture, rub in your dry rub, paprika, etc and roast it on a rack in the bottom of the roaster.

Preheat roaster to 350. Put in the roaster at 1 hour at 350 degrees, then turn down to 200-225. For a single piece, allow a TOTAL of 10 to 12 minutes per pound, but use the meat thermometer- depending on the shape and thickness
of the roast it DOES vary. If dry/open roast, place the thermometer at the beginning. If it is in the foil packet, do not pierce the foil and put in the temp probe until the last hour.

Warning!!! The reason the beef gets tender is the SLOW roast. Cook it fast and it will be done but not tender. If you are serving Sunday, you could even turn the temp to 200 and increase the cooking time, just "cook until done".

Your 23 pound roast is 230 to 290 minutes, about 5 hours roasting at 250, 6 at 200. I would allow 7 total, to allow for extra roasting time and standing time before slicing.

If serving the same day, crockpots on low are an option. Seem to do better than returning to the roaster. But if you use the roaster, at least 180 but no more than 200 degrees.

If serving the next day or later, it needs to be kept refrigerated to store/ keep after slicing. Reheat by covering tightly, adding some beef consomme or beef broth, and reheating in the oven.

FOR THE PORK
Use a similar technique, but use 350 and 250. Place the thermometer in the smallest roast, be careful not to put the tip against bone. Remove when the temp hits 155-160. Transfer thermometer to the next smaller and repeat until all are done. Let stand at least 1/2 hour before slicing.

Joe
09/23/06
How long does it take to cook 60 beef hots dogs in a roaster? I dont want to under cook them or over cook them and let them absorb to much water. By the way, your web site is pretty neat, I will show these great suggestions to my wife. Thanks Ellen!
ellen
09/23/06
Are you going to boil them? You might consider instead putting in a rack with water underneath and bring to 300, then steam. They will not get waterlogged and will hold better.
shirley
10/02/06
I have to cook for 70 this weekend. I planned to slow cook beef. I bought 20 pounds of sirlion tip roast and 8 pounds of bottom round roast. Can I cook them in nesco's? How much at a time? Do I need to marinade? I'm cooking in a beer,wine mixture(to cover meat) and italian seaning pkg at the last two hours. Secondly, I'd like to cook pasta. Can I cook it using a nesco to serve? It is penne, but I'd just like to use a red sauce. Is that ok? Should I bake it first, or just loil it?
ellen
10/02/06
Shirley, the two cuts are just not the same- sirloin tip is juicier and more tender, bottome round really needs braising or pot roasting. If you will email an address to the contact email below, I will send you my Nesco roaster directions.

For the pasta. see my lotsa pasta page. Yes you can preook with a Nesco to serve.

jill
10/04/06
confused on baked potato bar
I'm planning on doing a baked potato bar for 35 high school football players. I am having all the regular toppings and then chili. I 'm wondering how much chili to cook, I"m worried some may just want chili does that happen often? I've read all your potato site but I'm also confused on how many potatoes I can fit in my 18 qt roaster. The chili will go into crock pots. Any help will be appreciated I'm so lost here. Thanks
ellen
10/04/06
Ok Jill, the first thing is, a few deep breaths. This is not rocket science.

Count your 30 players as about 50-60 for toppings, add the coaches, staff, parents that will be eating with them to arrive at a number for toppings. If you add a second hot topping, you will have less chance of chili running out. I would use chopped broccoli in cheese sauce.

Now you need to know something about potato buying. They are packed by the case, and the restaurant type ones are also counted- "80" means there are 80 in the case. For the potatoes, if you buy regular ones at the store, allow two medium size ones per guy. Better yet, there is a mammoth potato available through your local produce wholesaler, a 65 or 80- your local grocery could also order for you- that would be perfect for this, they are really big and one each plus about 10% extra would be plenty!

I suggest you bake in a regular oven, using the ice chest storage method, then keep hot in the Nesco. One Nesco will not bake enough potatoes for this size group.

Sue
10/08/06
I am cooking bbq (made w/hamburger and served on a bun) for 35 teenagers for a church dinner. How much should I prepare?

Thank you.

ellen
10/13/06
For teens, I count 2 sandwiches apiece and 5 sandwiches per pound, so 70 sandwiches= 14 pounds. You will probably have some left, but it freezes and that is way better than running out.
Pam Jones
10/16/06
I am doing Ham, Roast Beef and Turkey with rollsfor a wedding reception for 170 people how many lb. of each will I need.
ellen
10/16/06
Assuming this is sandwich style at a meal time, you want 5 ounces of cooked ready to eat thin sliced meat per person. The plan for 100 shows how much raw cooks down- the loss is 30-40%. I would figure out the amount, then do 1/2 roast beef, 1/3 each turkey and 1/4 ham. Yes that adds up to more than 100%- people eat more and usually take some of each when there are several offered. You will use a little less if a server serves the meat.

It will help to have 2 ounces of sliced cheese per person available. If it is between meal- reception- timing, you can use about 1/4 less.

Valorie
10/20/06
Hi Ellen. Your site is a great resource. I am catering a wedding reception for 220. I am preparing two entrees: roast baron of beef and chicken breasts with spices(undecided). What temperature and length of time do I use for (2) 50lb baron's of beef to be at medium doneness.? I read your information on slow cooking and would like to do it this way. The reception starts at 5pm. Thank you for your help.
ellen
10/21/06
Here is a picture of someone cooking a baron of beef:

www.collectbritain.co.uk/personalisation/object.cfm?uid=005ADD000015538U00232000

Please send an email address to the "contact for updates" address below so I can email you my suggestions. Also, are you planning to carve these at the dinner? Also, is it the double sirloin with the backbone in, or a full round? Both are sold as a baron in the USA?

ellen
10/21/06
You might want to look at my recipe for wedding chicken (in a citrus glaze) on the big pots page. Can be made ahead, frozen, and reheated.
Brad
11/06/06
Hi Ellen,

I am preparing a dinner for 55 adults and 57 children. We're having chicken and beef fajita tacos, so I was wondering how much meat to purchase? Also, if you have any idea on the amount of beans, salsa, etc. that would be helpful.

Thanks.

ellen
11/06/06
This depends on the ages of the children- 12 and under, count each 2 as 1 person, teens count as adults. You will get a number somewhere between 80 and 112. Then use the baked potato bar quantities for salsa, sour cream, diced tomatoes, etc. For side dishes of rice and beans you can use the table, plan for 100, on Big Pots.
Maggie
11/16/06
I am cooking pulled pork for 150 people, how much meat do I need?
ellen
11/17/06
for pulled pork sandwiches, you need 1 pound raw boneless for each 5 sandwiches. You want to allow 1.2 to 1.4 sandwiches per person, depending on sides and whether it is a mixed crowds, such as mostly teens, or all guys, which uses the larger amount. Sliced and roasted, pork requires 2 pounds raw boneless for 5 persons.

Picnic shoulder is the same as chuck on a cow. It is a moist, rather fatty meat, much less dry than ham or loin and my favorite piece of pork for sandwiches. To roast, use a meat thermometer, cook it to 160 internal using a low and slow roast for slicing. Go to 200 for pulled pork.

You can use any flavoring or marinade recipe for pork loin for this piece.

marilyn
11/18/06
I need to know how many turkeys I needto feed 150 people. I am planning a Christmas dinner for apartment residents, along with guests I calculate 150.
ellen
11/18/06
Go to the big pots section, read the shopping instructions for large turkey dinners. All will be revealed.
Chris
11/21/06
Turkey
I want to cook my turkey in my electric roaster and I want to cook it slowly at about 200-250 degrees. How long will it take to cook?
ellen
11/22/06
My recommendations for roasting time and temps are in the holiday cooking section, you don't give a weight on your turkey. See also the electric roaster and GE roaster forum threads. Don't stuff the turkey if you want to use lower temps, it is not safe. DO wash/rinse the turkey very well. If you want it browner and crisper skin, finsh in the regular oven
Margaret
11/25/06
Help! I have been drafted to feed 200 people an Australian Christmas dinner at our church Christmas party--don't ask; I don't know how they came up with the theme. We have a tentative menu, and some helpers. Roasted Lamb (hot or cold) and cold Ham are the main dishes, but I have never cooked lamb.

We assume more people will eat ham, and many will not even try the lamb. How much lamb should I plan, and do you have a simple recipe? Leg of lamb on the bone would probably be cheaper, but boned would be much easier to work with, wouldn't it? We will have to farm out the cooking to church members so prep instructions should be for amounts that fit in home ovens. The church oven is home-sized, and is for re-heating only--NO "cooking"!

Thanks for helping.

Margaret Johns
missmargaret58@mac.com

ellen
11/26/06
By now you should have my emails with recipes and roasting guide. Hope you enjoy that Aussie "tucker" (food).
Carol
11/26/06
Dear Ellen,

Planning a christmas luncheon for 100 mature adults

How many pounds of boneless ham will be needed

Thanks for your help

Johnnie

ellen
11/26/06
About 25 pounds thin-sliced ready to eat if the side dishes are holiday level. If the diners get to slice their own, add about 8 pounds.
Dawn
12/01/06
We are having tacos for about 50 people. How would I find the right amount of meat, cheese, lettuce, and tomatoe for this occassion? Thanks
ellen
12/01/06
I have a couple of large taco recipes on site, but a convenient secret is- taco toppings take almost exactly what the baked potato bar does per person, making either chili or taco meat as your meat. There is a very good table posted under Baked Potato Bar in Big Pots.
Duane H. Coan
12/04/06
8 Pound Whole Boneless Pork Roast
Hello,

I bought an 8 pound whole boneless pork roast and have never fixed one before. Could you give me any help with how to prepare this. I have both an oven and I have a large roaster. Any help you can give me would be appreciated.

Duane

ellen
12/04/06
Hi, did you double post? I just answered this under pork. Don't overcook it!
Louise
12/11/06
Ellen- I am serving a Top Round Roast and Roasted Turkey for 60-70 people as part of a buffet. In your experience about how much of each should I plan on buying - raw weight?
Thank you
ellen
12/11/06
5 ounces cooked boneless ready to eat beef, 3 ounces ready to eat turkey. That translates into 2 1/2 persons per pound of boneless raw beef and 2 persons per pound of whole raw bone-in turkey, approximately.
susan
12/18/06
I am having 10 big eaters. How big of a boneless rib roast do I need to buy?
ellen
12/18/06
8 pounds ready to cook is good, will be plenty but not much leftover- or more as the budget allows. Really good side dishes, such as Yorkshire pudding and twice baked or scalloped potatoes, will slow them down a bit- and don't forget to roast small onions and carrots around the roast.
Juanita Monjaras
12/21/06
We are having a company cookout. We were wondering how many pounds of fajita meat will it take to feed about 50-60 people. Please let me know as soon as you can.
ellen
12/22/06
It depends- less if you have rice and beans as sides, more with just tortillas and toppings. But you want 1 pound raw boneless for about every 2 to 2 1/2 persons.
Lisa
01/05/07
left over ham recipes
left over ham recipes
Sonja
01/12/07
I would like a tri tip, shredded pork, and kielbasa roast dinner, with a few side salads, and beans. Should I sub something for chicken? We are all coming from multi states. Ther will be more than 100. We are at a campsite, and over half of the invites are within 4hrs. What would your menu include?
ellen
01/14/07
Sona, is this to be cooked on site or brought in? If cooked on site, what is the kitchen or cooking arrangements, and do you have electricity there? The baked potato bar tells how to cook baked potatoes ahead and tote them over several hours- Write back, OK?
Julie Titus
02/20/07
I'm cooking 55 lbs of pork loin for a party and I'm wondering how long it will take if I use 2 reg ovens. How do I increase the time for that much meat in an oven? If I have to I can use three ovens.
ellen
02/20/07
Juli, try to get pieces about the same size in each oven, put the meat thermometer in the smallest one, use that for the initial time estimate. Allow up to an extra hour for the extra pounds. Time depends on temp. I do them at 300 degrees as pork loin tends to be a little dry if cooked at high temps.
Tanisha
02/26/07
I'm having a family cookout with appox. 250 people, I plan to supply the chicken (wings, legs and boneless chicken breast, ribs burgers and hot dogs. Family members will bring many side dishes. My question is How much meat do I need to buy? Thank you
Tanisha
02/27/07
Thank you, I found a link on your website that answered my question. Have a Blessed day.
ellen
02/28/07
Total 8 ounces uncooked boneless meat- you will have to decide how much of each based on family preferences. Bone in chicken, 1 pound is the same as 8 ounces boneless. Ribs 1 pound is the same as 8 ounces boneless.
tammy
03/02/07
I have a small cafe and need to reheat bbq ribs. probably only 1-2 servings at a time. What is the best way to do this without over cooking the ribs? I have already cooked the ribs but not added the bbq sauce yet.
ellen
03/03/07
Tammy, you will be hard pressed to get the quiality you want- moist, meaty and flavorful. Use a salamander broiler, not a microwave, which doea bad things to pork. Keep at 155 (safebacteriologically but not overcooked), dip into the boiling hot sauce, watch and baste under broiler. Consider doing only on certain days a s a special, so you can keep them hot and not deal with reheating.
Amanda Evans
03/13/07
Hello i am baking steak and ale pies for 20 people how much meet should i buy thanks
ellen
03/15/07
You can follow your recipe. I would expect about 5-6 pounds.
Shari
03/23/07
Prime Rib Roast
Hi Ellen,

Not sure if you'll get this responded to in time but thought I'd try, :). I am cooking a 14 pound prime rib roast for prom dinner tomorrow. I have a nesco roaster or can use the oven. Which would be best? And, I need it to be simple but good. Any suggestions? Thanks!

ellen
03/24/07